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Some color swatches for the Spaniard, Santiago de la Cruz, and representative for the power-mongers of the Caribbean during the late 1600s.

At the moment I am leaning towards two on the bottom row, far right: red-black and yellow-black. The red is rich, an expensive dye, and alludes to Santiago's strength and bloodthirsty nature; he's clearly not afraid of a fight. However the yellow seems to portray his age better, and hint at the wealth aspect of his personality. He's clearly much more grizzled and not as youthful as either James or Louis. But yellow retracts from his vicious nature, and may blend a little too well with Louis's shock of blonde hair.

As always, comments and feedback are very welcome.


--Sak
Santiago de la Cruz © Myself, Shamine A. King
For LASALLE, College of the Arts, Singapore
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~AnnRita45 Jan 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
why not a deep red with a richer goldish color??? or maybe a bright mustard color??? i know, sounds nasty, but you would be suprised!!! instead of changing the color, change its hue and see what you get...
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I'd stick with some yellow, due to fact that he's Spanish.
Red = British
Blue = French
Yellow = Spanish
Grey (in my opinion) is a bit more of a German color and Green is Russian, so some of the characters look a bit weird if they're too grey or Green.
For some reason, Red and Yellow stripes makes me think of Papal Guards [link]
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I vote on red-black
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~CaptainSeawolf Oct 16, 2012   General Artist
Well to throw my two cents in here I really like the red garbs (specifically 3rd one in on the first row) that one has a strong warning presence to it, you wouldn't want to mess with him and like your note said the darker armor makes that look heavier and him more likely to be able to lob off your head with a well placed hit, its an angry color and in heraldry it means one is a warrior and/or has military strength, which obviously Santiago has. With the worry of his hair getting lost perhaps there it can be lightened up a bit? Or as I have read in these other comments keep the silver streak..It shows he's an older man, but with that he is dangerous, he's been around longer and knows how to fight, fair and dirty both I imagine. The red also puts him apart in the small line up, since he would stand out against Louis and James both in a fast paced scene if need be if Louis is running around in his vibrant outfits and James in his darker black and blues.

But if red is not your thing I liked the green and black garb in row 2 (perhaps maybe even trying one lighter a shade to make it stand out more against the black perhaps?) The green is a strong color, noble, in the time period reds blues green and purples were 'royal' colors after all, cause to get the jeweled tones in the fabric was extremely expensive which is why pirates stole those most, it was a mockery near to those higher classes. Green would also add to a villainous side but not be as sharp as the red, make him more cunning and sly one to think before he attacks where red would make me thing immediately of a rampaging bloke.

And my third favorite would be the very last one at the bottom of yellow and black its a caution sign, not to mess with him. Its also a color scheme I find rarely used. <shrug>

And now that I have rattled off here I am going to go back and hide in my geeky corner. :rofl: Hope this helped a little if nothing else helps cross off one thing on the list. :)
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*Canadian-Rainwater Oct 16, 2012  Student Filmographer
He will probably be wearing red and black in the final animation, as suggested. I was under the impression that blue and especially purple were royal, expensive colors, which was why Royalty in Rome wore purple.
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~CaptainSeawolf Oct 18, 2012   General Artist
Oh very cool. And that makes sense. :D I can't wait to see more of this trio, (and especially Louis and James) They are so cool!
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~Kielrae Oct 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
i think it's very important to include red in santiago's design. red connotes power, robustness, and most of all, THREAT.

louis and santiago both threaten the commodore, but they do it in very different ways. louis is a false threat--the commodore perceives him as threatening even though the only reason they aren't allies is that the commodore won't allow it. if a person identifies with a stereotype, they feel that their very identity is threatened when they come across someone who defies it. but someone who breaks a stereotype doesn't do it to hurt someone who doesn't. they do it because the stereotype just isn't true for them.

i think that's a message that needs to get out, because backlash against stereotype-breakers is stupid, horrible, and way too common.

santiago is great for that because he can show the commodore (and the audience) the difference between a false threat and a true one. also, he shows that to overcome threats, people who are very different from each other should work together. the best way to get people to quit sniping at each other is to force them to work together. :D
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*Canadian-Rainwater Oct 16, 2012  Student Filmographer
... Wow. Just wow. Can I marry you?? That was a great insight, I loved it! It outlined all sorts of points I'd never even thought about before. I hope you don't mind my screen-capping that to stick into my sketchbook as part of my development research.
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~Kielrae Oct 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
no problem at all! *gleeful squeak*
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And here I am thinking that Louis is the main character with Santiago being his threat rather than a threat to James.

I'm thinking that Louis was a threat to Santiago with his chaotic "do as I want" nature, which in his case also exemplifies the embrace of femininity within a masculine structure which is not at all kosher in his black & white world of extreme macho strict regulation & order..
Sure with the commodore Louis could be a threat to his identity (and self portraits) but for Santiago the threat is broader than that like a virus that could plague his entire world.(this compounds when James & Louis team up) Especially in the pocket book area when Louis came from money turning away from it (giving a spoiled brat opinion) to live only on what he and his crew need while I see Santiago having to work his way up & his insatiable thirst to acquire massive wealth and possibly be surrounded with others who are just as easily paid off to do as he wants.

Perhaps it's too cliche' but that's what I came up with having so much focus put on Louis.
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